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judy gash ber is with boston's dana farber cancer institute. >> i think this will have an effect on practice, and particularly for my young patients. i think they'll feel much safer for all of us. >> reporter: but there are significant side effects. most women have immediate effects of menopause including night sweats and hot flashes. still she says if her doctor recommends it, she'll take it again. >> recurrence is something you live with all of your life. all of a sudden you hear all these stories about women's cancer coming back after eight, nine, ten years, so it doesn't go away, no. >>> tamoxifen has other side effects including risk of uterine cancer strokes, and blood clots. but researches say for younger breast cancer survivors, those risks are outweighed by the drug's benefit. elaine quijano, cbs, new york. >>> coming up next, your thursday weather and the hit song "gangnam style" hanging on big time. we'll be right back. anging on big time. we'll be right back. made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup c
judy gash ber is with boston's dana farber cancer institute. >> i think this will have an effect on practice, and particularly for my young patients. i think they'll feel much safer for all of us. >> reporter: but there are significant side effects. most women have immediate effects of menopause including night sweats and hot flashes. still she says if her doctor recommends it, she'll take it again. >> recurrence is something you live with all of your life. all of a sudden you...
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we saw it in ohio, dana, last year. there was extensive coverage of what happened in wisconsin in part because of the governor there. but the fact that this is getting less attention this time around, is that some sort of indication that this is the way the world is going? >> you know, i don't think so, necessarily, chris. i mean, it's clear that governor snyder started looking for the scott walker prize and tea party a adulation there. it seems to me what happens is you do have these periodic overreaches after an election. you saw it on the other side, republicans complained with some justification that obama rather than focusing on the economy went ahead with obama care and he paid for that. i think you're going to see the same sort of backlash here where voters have been saying very clearly they want action on the economy. now it becomes sort of an anti--union effort that has very little to do in the short term with the economy. so maybe, you know, they may be able to get their right to work thing through there but t
we saw it in ohio, dana, last year. there was extensive coverage of what happened in wisconsin in part because of the governor there. but the fact that this is getting less attention this time around, is that some sort of indication that this is the way the world is going? >> you know, i don't think so, necessarily, chris. i mean, it's clear that governor snyder started looking for the scott walker prize and tea party a adulation there. it seems to me what happens is you do have these...
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jessica yellen joins us, dana bash and david gergen. what's the latest? >> reporter: they are a long way from a deal, but late today speaker boehner and president obama did speak to one another on the phone. now, this is an important development because it's the first time they've talked in a week about the fiscal cliff. i am told, though, that there was no real progress in negotiations. in this sense there was no breakthrough on that central point of tax rates. as you know, president obama insists there is no deal unless the gop agrees to raise rates on the top 2% of earners. the gop says that's a nonstarter and the two men have not moved from that basic position. now, all of this quomz comes at the same time treasury secretary geithner also said for the first time the administration would be willing to go over the fiscal cliff if the gop does not agree to raise those rates. this was treasury secretary geithner earlier today on cnbc. >> is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that
jessica yellen joins us, dana bash and david gergen. what's the latest? >> reporter: they are a long way from a deal, but late today speaker boehner and president obama did speak to one another on the phone. now, this is an important development because it's the first time they've talked in a week about the fiscal cliff. i am told, though, that there was no real progress in negotiations. in this sense there was no breakthrough on that central point of tax rates. as you know, president...
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>> dana: that's it for "the five." thanks for watching. ♪ >> bret: the government creeps closer to the fiscal cliff with orders for the military and others to start preparing for the worst. this is "special report." ♪ ♪ >> bret: good evening. i'm bret baier. the country plays the waiting game to see if country and the president take the economy off the fiscal cliff, president obama says he will not play the debt ceiling game again. but he is taking a few more shots in the public relations game. turning the screws on republicans, a little bit more. chief white house correspondent ed henry starts us off tonight. >> reporter: finally the blame for stalled budget talks on republicans, president ratcheted up the lesh on john boehner. >> no one wants to have this done more than me. >> reporter: telling agencies to watch for massive spending cuts from going over the fiscal cliff and warped the business exectives the economy could take another hit if the republicans decide to extend the middle class tax cut to avoid the
>> dana: that's it for "the five." thanks for watching. ♪ >> bret: the government creeps closer to the fiscal cliff with orders for the military and others to start preparing for the worst. this is "special report." ♪ ♪ >> bret: good evening. i'm bret baier. the country plays the waiting game to see if country and the president take the economy off the fiscal cliff, president obama says he will not play the debt ceiling game again. but he is taking a...
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let's bring in our senior congressional correspondent dana basch, she has the latest. >> reporter: there's so much political theater around here right now, you could say tickets. one of today's acts was the house leaving. lawmakers streaming out of the capitol hill, racing to their cars to get to the airport and go home. it's a scene you usually see on a thursday afternoon or friday morning, not wednesday at noon. >> good morning. >> house republican leaders told members they're free to leave, because they have nothing to vote on. >> i understand that you are saying legislation has been put on the floor. when it comes to just pure optics of the house leaving with the fiscal cliff right in front of us -- >> i'll be here and i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious about solving this problem. >> in fact, sending lawmakers home is a way for house republicans to illustrate their current message, your move, mr. president. >> we need a response from the white house, we can't negotiate with ourselves. >> john boehner made a point at expressing dismay the presi
let's bring in our senior congressional correspondent dana basch, she has the latest. >> reporter: there's so much political theater around here right now, you could say tickets. one of today's acts was the house leaving. lawmakers streaming out of the capitol hill, racing to their cars to get to the airport and go home. it's a scene you usually see on a thursday afternoon or friday morning, not wednesday at noon. >> good morning. >> house republican leaders told members...
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dana, thanks very much. and i'm joined now by senator demint along with heritage foundation founding trustee, the current president, we see the outgoing president, ed feulner, thanks for coming in. we're going to talk a little about the state of the heritage foundation and the republican party. the senator's here, the newsmaker, you shocked all of us. why did you do this? >> wolf, after this last election it's apparent we need to do more as conservatives to convince americans that our ideas and policies are going to make their lives better. the heritage foundation is the premier think tank, research organization, the premier idea group for the conservative movement. this will give me the opportunity to help take our case to the american people. and to translate our policies into real ideas. >> so you think you can be more influential within the conservative movement as the leader of the heritage foundation as oppose today a united states senator? >> there's no question about it. >> what does that say about t
dana, thanks very much. and i'm joined now by senator demint along with heritage foundation founding trustee, the current president, we see the outgoing president, ed feulner, thanks for coming in. we're going to talk a little about the state of the heritage foundation and the republican party. the senator's here, the newsmaker, you shocked all of us. why did you do this? >> wolf, after this last election it's apparent we need to do more as conservatives to convince americans that our...
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i have a question of you, dana bash. dana, are you there? she can't hear me. well, i wanted to ask her about these $800 billion in tax revenue. i want to make it clear to all of you that does not mean an increase in taxes on the wealthiest americans. that means closing loopholes and cutting other things to raise that $800 billion in tax revenue that the republicans are talking about. we're going to hear much more about this on the other side of the break and we'll be right back. >>> just moments ago, john boehner spoke to reporters and said he made an offer. part of the negotiations to avoid that fiscal cliff, he made that offer to president obama that includes $800 billion in tax revenue. he wants to overhaul the entire tax code, close loopholes, things like that. he's waiting for a response from the president. listen to what he said. >> you know, this week we made a got faith offer to avert the fiscal crisis and that offer included significant spending cuts and reforms and it included additional revenue. and, frankly, it was the balanced approach that the pr
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dana bash, our cnn congressional cour correspondent from capitol hill is joining us. it doesn't look that way yet, does it? >> we think it's bad they're not talking to each other, but if it ends up like that in certain part it is of the world, not talking is not such a bad thing. >> it hasn't evolved into that yet. where are we with the idea of compromi compromise? is there any solution to not going over the fiscal cliff? >> reporter: we heard a lot of the same today from leaders in both parties. from the speaker coming out and saying the president's got to put more spending cuts on the table and from the democratic leaders say that the republicans just have to give on agreeing to raise tax rates for the wealthy. no. guess what? we heard from dthem that the house speaker is going home this weekend. he's not going to be here. they'll hopefully talk to the phone, but no face-to-face meetings. >> dana you talked to a couple of guys that spent careers in congress making deals, and they talk about you how they did it. tell us a little bit about that, the insights here. >>
dana bash, our cnn congressional cour correspondent from capitol hill is joining us. it doesn't look that way yet, does it? >> we think it's bad they're not talking to each other, but if it ends up like that in certain part it is of the world, not talking is not such a bad thing. >> it hasn't evolved into that yet. where are we with the idea of compromi compromise? is there any solution to not going over the fiscal cliff? >> reporter: we heard a lot of the same today from...
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let's bring in dana bash. what are you learning? >> reporter: the president is probably on his way to have this meeting with the president that we heard about this afternoon. that's certainly true if you talk to former leaders like i did today on both sides of the aisle. tom daschle and trent lott who hashed out deals like this one. they said, this is exactly what needs to happen. talk: i used to stand outside in the hall and it was a question of when would the deal happen and now it's will they get a deal. what's changed? >> news media is more omnipresent. all of the new social media, traveling back and forth and different personal see teas. tom and i had our differences. not everything was just perfect. >> i was there. i know it wasn't. >> it wasn't perfect. >> and i still am convinced and hopeful, at least, that they are going to come to an agreement. there's an argument that you don't want to make it too early because that gives people not too happy with it more time to undermine it. so the tempo and timing is important. >> we w
let's bring in dana bash. what are you learning? >> reporter: the president is probably on his way to have this meeting with the president that we heard about this afternoon. that's certainly true if you talk to former leaders like i did today on both sides of the aisle. tom daschle and trent lott who hashed out deals like this one. they said, this is exactly what needs to happen. talk: i used to stand outside in the hall and it was a question of when would the deal happen and now it's...
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. >> dana: i see. >> eric: will they get -- >> dana: i see what he is saying. it's like when you reduce the rate of growth, you get credit for saying that you cut spending. it's a game. it's a word game. >> bob: keep in mind, whatever legislation happens can be retroactively made to january 1. when you get to june working on this, you still have the debt ceiling issue here. she is right tough to get through the house. boehner for the first time, unlike last time, he has the lieutenants with him. canada with him, two or three others in leadership with him on this. so if he has that, he can put together majority. >> eric: can you imagine what is going on behind the door now? john boehner has to figure out how he is going to offer increase revenue, probably offer tax increases and figure out how to sell it to the group. >> greg: i go back to the maxim about obese people. they are not fat because they don't have enough fat. they're fat because they eat too much. that's the government. the problem isn't they need more money. they can't stop spending. every time you
. >> dana: i see. >> eric: will they get -- >> dana: i see what he is saying. it's like when you reduce the rate of growth, you get credit for saying that you cut spending. it's a game. it's a word game. >> bob: keep in mind, whatever legislation happens can be retroactively made to january 1. when you get to june working on this, you still have the debt ceiling issue here. she is right tough to get through the house. boehner for the first time, unlike last time, he has...
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gr dana: i think so, too.
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dana, thanks very much. i want to bring in sunny hostin who is legal contributor for "in session" on trutv. what do you make of this hiring of an illegal immigrant in the united states but also a registered sex offender? >> well, you know, it's odd that the senator's office would not haveuncover at least his immigration status because he entered the country from peru on a visitor's visa. the fact that it had expired is certainly something the office would have been able to figure out. it's a little more challenging when it comes to his sex offender status. because he's 18 years old now. my understanding, wolf, is that he violated some, he was convicted of some sort of crime, probably in 2010. he would have been 16 years old. he would have been tried and convicted as a juvenile. and oftentimes, those particular sex offender records are not public. so if you look his name up, let's say, in the public registry, that would not come up. that is not to say, however, that a thorough background check would not refle
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>> dana: interesting you say that. france found out they are performing worse than the americans in reading and science. >> andrea: the youth unemployment is 25%. this is with homework. okay? if you take away the homework, what does it go up to? this is classic socialism. this is not about personal responsibility. everyone starts out the same but you can't determine theout come. this, they want to determine the outcome even if it's punitive. >> bob: the idea that the big kids do homework. when they are six years old, seven, eight, nine, ridiculous. >> dana: greg? >> greg: i'm with andrea. it's the expectation of outcome opposed to opportunity. high expectations are now perceived as being mean-spirited. sometimes bigoted. we are lowering our expectations of our people. as we expect more from the product. impoint. over time we no longer have the great products that we have. what do you do instead of homework? the point of homework keep you alive through childhood. because you are supposed to give them childhood to adulth
>> dana: interesting you say that. france found out they are performing worse than the americans in reading and science. >> andrea: the youth unemployment is 25%. this is with homework. okay? if you take away the homework, what does it go up to? this is classic socialism. this is not about personal responsibility. everyone starts out the same but you can't determine theout come. this, they want to determine the outcome even if it's punitive. >> bob: the idea that the big kids...
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>> dana: no. well before that. but you know who you are. >> bob: i lend money to my family across the board. >> andrea: pay it back? >> bob: no. okay. [ laughter ] one more thing. ♪ ♪ >> eric: all right. time for one more thing. dana will kick it off. >> dana: to confirm, i know you missed greg last week, he is more of a monster than before. i'm going to not tell you why. you know what you did. george w. bush in dallas, new partnership, 4% growth project with the federal reserve bank of dallas. immigration and economic reform conference. an important debate we'll have coming up. he had a point to make today. >> america can be a lawful society, and a welcoming society at the same time. as our nation debates the proper course of action respecting to immigration, i hope we do so with a benevolent spirit and keep in mind the contribution of immigrants. >> dana: a great leader on immigration and i hope he plays a constructive role in the debate to come. >> greg: i hope not. >> eric: the immensely popular new york ma
>> dana: no. well before that. but you know who you are. >> bob: i lend money to my family across the board. >> andrea: pay it back? >> bob: no. okay. [ laughter ] one more thing. ♪ ♪ >> eric: all right. time for one more thing. dana will kick it off. >> dana: to confirm, i know you missed greg last week, he is more of a monster than before. i'm going to not tell you why. you know what you did. george w. bush in dallas, new partnership, 4% growth project...
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dana best and worst gift you have gotten? >> dana: ever gotten? you will see a picture on the christmas special. my mom found one that will show you the best gift i got. it might surprise you. >> bob: what is the worst? >> dana: my detention notice. i thought i slipped by my parents. i got out of school with my friend tracy shilling and i got caught but i didn't any my parents knew about it. i had to go to detention. but the detention notice was sent to my mom and dad. only time i ever got detention. when i opened up my presents on christmas day my mom and dad framed my detention notice. that was the worst gift. >> dana: no wonder you hate christmas. >> greg: you were scarred. words do hurt. >> bob: excuse me. asking you a question. >> eric: i think best gift, i really mean this is impersonal but gift cards. i am telling you. >> dana: they are a scam! >> eric: if i give you a gift card you would use it. >> dana: i have a gift, two gift cards in my wallet i carried around for 11-1/2 months i haven't used yet. they are going to expire. >> kimberly:
dana best and worst gift you have gotten? >> dana: ever gotten? you will see a picture on the christmas special. my mom found one that will show you the best gift i got. it might surprise you. >> bob: what is the worst? >> dana: my detention notice. i thought i slipped by my parents. i got out of school with my friend tracy shilling and i got caught but i didn't any my parents knew about it. i had to go to detention. but the detention notice was sent to my mom and dad. only...
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that's how i got the original tip, dana. remember i got a call from somebody inside the factory that said, i don't want to work with these guys because they're impaired while they're working. some guy running a big crane or something. i mean, this is a dangerous job. these factories are dangerous. they're working with dangerous equipment. certainly you don't want somebody next to you that is impaired in any way at all. that's how the whole story got started. this came from inside the plant. i've actually heard from some of the workers inside the plant since these guys have been back. they don't want these guys back there here. this is not a victory for them. this is a -- just something that happened. >> remarkable. thank you so much for joining us. >> no problem. >> all right. as a final curtain gets ready to close on the guidos and the guidettes owner "the jersey shore," west virginia senator joe manchin has asked mtv to pull the plug on its new show called "buckwild." senator chastised the network saying you preyed on youn
that's how i got the original tip, dana. remember i got a call from somebody inside the factory that said, i don't want to work with these guys because they're impaired while they're working. some guy running a big crane or something. i mean, this is a dangerous job. these factories are dangerous. they're working with dangerous equipment. certainly you don't want somebody next to you that is impaired in any way at all. that's how the whole story got started. this came from inside the plant....
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that shows how long it has been, dana. i know you covering the hill, the white house for many years. you can't do that without really having a lot of conversation and time with joe bieberman. i remember covering the al gore/lieberman race when he lost in 2000 or so. what do you think he's going to be known for? what is going to stand out, his mark on his 24 years? >> reporter: i think there's no question his mark is how unconventional he has been and particularly the way he has straddled both parties. he's now officially independent, as you mentioned. he was a democrat, a life-long democrat so much so he was chosen by al gore to be the democratic party's vice presidential candidate, running mate, and then just six years later in 2006 he was tossed out by democratic voters in the state of connecticut in the primary there because of his unwavering support for the iraq war. then he became an independent, and then two years after that in 2008 i was on the campaign trail with the republican presidential candidate, john mccain,
that shows how long it has been, dana. i know you covering the hill, the white house for many years. you can't do that without really having a lot of conversation and time with joe bieberman. i remember covering the al gore/lieberman race when he lost in 2000 or so. what do you think he's going to be known for? what is going to stand out, his mark on his 24 years? >> reporter: i think there's no question his mark is how unconventional he has been and particularly the way he has straddled...
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>> bob: a lot. >> dana: a lot, right? >> bob: they pulled belcher out of his car, you can get arrested, if you have keys in your ignition, you might as well be driving. they can do breathalyzer on you and over the limit they can arrest you. notice the headlights were on. it wonder if the car was running. >> eric: the keys were not in the car. >> bob: not? >> greg: this goes back to the different rules. there are different rules for certain people in society. not just n.f.l. players if you look at the celebrities in general. i had the same rap sheet that lindsay lohan did, i would bebe in rikers engaged to a man named tiny. >> dana: how cute! >> greg: i know. he's not tiny. let me tell you that. ironic -- the fact is none of us, nobody has the same breaks a celebrity does because they look at a celebrity and say i can do them a favor because i see them on tv. >> eric: where do you draw the line? if there is zero tolerance in the n.f.l., is there zero tolerance among airline pilots? bus drivers? >> dana: i know a company th
>> bob: a lot. >> dana: a lot, right? >> bob: they pulled belcher out of his car, you can get arrested, if you have keys in your ignition, you might as well be driving. they can do breathalyzer on you and over the limit they can arrest you. notice the headlights were on. it wonder if the car was running. >> eric: the keys were not in the car. >> bob: not? >> greg: this goes back to the different rules. there are different rules for certain people in society....
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>> bob: sorry. >> dana: it's okay. when i read about this today this is the first time i heard about her. it's hard for me to understand or to know, i don't know the facts of where the blurring of the lines between hollywood and making up a good story and reality mix. i suppose because of the attention to the movie we will find out more. but it'ses ifnating to think it would be, if it was, if it's true, her effort to say no, this way, go this way, go this way. she is determined. like one of our favorite programs we watch on here. it sounds like it could be fictionm character or actually could be true. interested to find out more. >> eric: this is very interesting, everyone on the left said here is a bigelow movie. she has great information and intel from the f.b.i. from the f.b.i. building. when she makes an accurate portrayal of the movie where waterboarding takes place or information gleaned from enhanceed interrogation leads from the cour your to bin laden all of a sudden, wait, don't glorify waterboarding or tortur
>> bob: sorry. >> dana: it's okay. when i read about this today this is the first time i heard about her. it's hard for me to understand or to know, i don't know the facts of where the blurring of the lines between hollywood and making up a good story and reality mix. i suppose because of the attention to the movie we will find out more. but it'ses ifnating to think it would be, if it was, if it's true, her effort to say no, this way, go this way, go this way. she is determined....
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our senior congressional correspondent dana bash is up on capitol hill. what are you hearing, dana? >> reporter: the senate majority leader who told me he's one of the biggest pessimists says he thinks it's going to be very difficult to get a deal done by christmas. meanwhile, republicans don't have a lot of opposition to raising the tax rates tried a different tactic today. a new coordinated message from republicans searching for more secure political footing. mr. president, show us your cuts. >> where are the president's spending cuts? the longer the white house slow-walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> nobody should trust democrats to put a dime until real deficit reductions. >> reporter: to better understand the gop positioning, remember what any reduction deficit looks like drawn from two different pots of money. first, tax revenue. second, spending cuts likely to center on changes to entitlements like medicare. on revenues, republicans already conceded to tax increases for the wealthy. the big sticking point is what kind and how much. since t
our senior congressional correspondent dana bash is up on capitol hill. what are you hearing, dana? >> reporter: the senate majority leader who told me he's one of the biggest pessimists says he thinks it's going to be very difficult to get a deal done by christmas. meanwhile, republicans don't have a lot of opposition to raising the tax rates tried a different tactic today. a new coordinated message from republicans searching for more secure political footing. mr. president, show us your...
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let's bring in our senior congressional correspondent, dana bash. >> reporter: reckless was the strong word the speaker used to describe timothy geithner's statement that he is willing to go over the cliff if republicans don't give on tax rates for the wealthy. i am told by a congressional source familiar with the talks they only had four, four staff level negotiations on the issue of the fiscal cliff, and that's why the speaker says the president is slow walking the issue. the house speaker ended the week with a progress report. none. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> reporter: he and the president spoke by phone only once all week and it didn't produce much. >> just more of the same. it is time for the president if he's serious to come back with a counteroffer. >> reporter: what may have been most notable was what boehner did not say. he did not repeat his demand to keep tax cuts for the wealthy in place, the biggest issue that divides them. instead, when asked, he said this. >> there
let's bring in our senior congressional correspondent, dana bash. >> reporter: reckless was the strong word the speaker used to describe timothy geithner's statement that he is willing to go over the cliff if republicans don't give on tax rates for the wealthy. i am told by a congressional source familiar with the talks they only had four, four staff level negotiations on the issue of the fiscal cliff, and that's why the speaker says the president is slow walking the issue. the house...
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a pair of esteemed washington writers, jonathan capehart and dana milbank, political columnist. welcome to both of you. if i can start with you,ç jonathan, paul ryan and marco rubio spoke to a group of conservatives last night. they talked about helping the poor get into the middle class. in fact, i think we have a shot of paul ryan helping the poor. yes, there he is, in a soup kitchen during a campaign photo op. as we know, it was all just talk. when are we going to start hearing substance from these men or any republicans, for that matter? >> paul ryan would say he's been talking substance for a long time on these issues. it's just that we don't like what he's saying. we don't like his prescriptions for how he would help the poor. personally, i think paul ryan -- >> how does it help the poor by stripping meals on wheels, remove pell grants, how does that help the poor? >> that's a question for congressman ryan. i'm telling you from his mindset, his perspective, one way to help people and the economy is to ensure the country is on sound financial fiscal footing. the way he wa
a pair of esteemed washington writers, jonathan capehart and dana milbank, political columnist. welcome to both of you. if i can start with you,ç jonathan, paul ryan and marco rubio spoke to a group of conservatives last night. they talked about helping the poor get into the middle class. in fact, i think we have a shot of paul ryan helping the poor. yes, there he is, in a soup kitchen during a campaign photo op. as we know, it was all just talk. when are we going to start hearing substance...
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i want to start there with dana bash here in a moment. because the fiscal cliff debate is starting to sound like, you know, a high stakes game of chicken. there is all kinds of tough talk. no action. right now democrats and republicans are refusing to compromise on this key sticking point, how to get more money from wealthy people. president obama, you know the deal, he wants to raise tax rates for the wealthy. house speaker john boehner wants to close tax loopholes, limit deductions for the wealthy. let's stay on the hill here, let's talk to senior congressional correspondent dana bash. we know the speaker -- we know speaker boehner met with conservative republicans today. did he get any backlash today from his plan? >> reporter: you know what, interestingly it doesn't seem like he did. we know that conservatives are not happy with the idea that their own house republican leadership proposed a plan that includes $800 billion in new revenue. we have seen -- reported on it extensively yesterday and the day before about the e-mail alerts th
i want to start there with dana bash here in a moment. because the fiscal cliff debate is starting to sound like, you know, a high stakes game of chicken. there is all kinds of tough talk. no action. right now democrats and republicans are refusing to compromise on this key sticking point, how to get more money from wealthy people. president obama, you know the deal, he wants to raise tax rates for the wealthy. house speaker john boehner wants to close tax loopholes, limit deductions for the...
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joining me now is dana milbank, columnist for "the washington post." he's writing about the republicans waving tax hikes and cynthia tucker and visiting professor of journalism at the university of georgia. thanks to both of you for being here tonight. >> hi, reverend. >> good to be here, reverend. >> dana, are republicans really ready to cave? >> well, reverend, first of all, terrific particular to see you and ann coulter on the same page. they've caved already. they have said, we're going to agree to an $800 billion tax increase. it's entirely possible that they are going to go off the cliff any way. it doesn't mean that a deal is imminent. it basically means that they surrender. they used to say that they wouldn't give a dime of tax increase for spending cuts. now they are saying, let's go and do it if we can get $3 of taxes for spending cuts. >> the choice may be down to, do they make the deal before the deadline or do they let it go over the cliff and then come back and vote the tax cuts for the medical class iddle class f to have a tack increase.
joining me now is dana milbank, columnist for "the washington post." he's writing about the republicans waving tax hikes and cynthia tucker and visiting professor of journalism at the university of georgia. thanks to both of you for being here tonight. >> hi, reverend. >> good to be here, reverend. >> dana, are republicans really ready to cave? >> well, reverend, first of all, terrific particular to see you and ann coulter on the same page. they've caved...
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who better to respond to that than his former press secretary, dana perino. what did you make of his speech? >> i thought it was really good. one of the issues that i worked on when i was the deputy to tony snow was immigration reform in 2007. there was a big push that president bush had. he tried to get this bill done. i remember we used to ask tony snow to go out and -- we would make him go on tv, talk radio, anything 'cause he was such a good communicator on that issue. president bush gave the first domestic policy address from the oval office in may of 2007 and it was on immigration. i'm not surprised that he's doing this now. i'm glad that he is. it's the george w. bush institute plus the dallas federal reserve bank talking about immigration from an economic growth standpoint. but you heard his words, his language isn't one that reminds people that we can have laws, but we can also do this in a smart benevolent way. do i hope he play has good role in the upcoming debate. >> brian: the house is passing their own immigration plan. they're looking to alter
who better to respond to that than his former press secretary, dana perino. what did you make of his speech? >> i thought it was really good. one of the issues that i worked on when i was the deputy to tony snow was immigration reform in 2007. there was a big push that president bush had. he tried to get this bill done. i remember we used to ask tony snow to go out and -- we would make him go on tv, talk radio, anything 'cause he was such a good communicator on that issue. president bush...
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thank you, dana and ron. i think we caught the spirit of this nonsense. >>> up next, one of the most popular guests we've ever had on "hardball," barney frank joins us as he prepares to leave the congress after more than -- boy, barney's been around a long time. i thought he was the new guy. this is "hardball," the place for politics. ♪ [ male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she's not happy about. so i introduced jill to crest pro-health for life. selected for people over 50. pro-health for life is a toothpaste that defends against tender, inflamed gums, sensitivity and weak enamel. conditions people over 50 experience. crest pro-health for life. so jill can keep living the good life. crest. life opens up when you do. >>> you've heard the expression you are what you eat. try this one, you vote what you eat. according to david wasserman of the cook political report, president obama won 77% of counties that contain a whole foods store. no surprise really.
thank you, dana and ron. i think we caught the spirit of this nonsense. >>> up next, one of the most popular guests we've ever had on "hardball," barney frank joins us as he prepares to leave the congress after more than -- boy, barney's been around a long time. i thought he was the new guy. this is "hardball," the place for politics. ♪ [ male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she's not happy about. so i...
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dana, your thoughts on that? >> that would be well and good except they're also getting all the taxes to go up at the same time, so they're not achieving anything by that. the republicans realize they lose politically if we go over the fiscal cliff, but this isn't just a political thing. the country loses economically if we go over it and then everybody is going to suffer -- >> let's go back to normal world. assume everybody is rational for five seconds. >> i can't do that. >> dana, you first. you're here in washington. and then ron. what's the game play out the next few days. i think the republicans have reached the end of the line. they're hoping obama will show his cards and come out with cuts for entitlements and then they will show something on tax cuts. >> they're begging him to show something. he has no incentive to do anything at least publicly. >> will they show their cards on tax cuts first? >> they have to. >> who is going to show their hand first? ron? >> the republicans. they're going to have to. oba
dana, your thoughts on that? >> that would be well and good except they're also getting all the taxes to go up at the same time, so they're not achieving anything by that. the republicans realize they lose politically if we go over the fiscal cliff, but this isn't just a political thing. the country loses economically if we go over it and then everybody is going to suffer -- >> let's go back to normal world. assume everybody is rational for five seconds. >> i can't do that....
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dana bash on the hill. a standoff here, republicans essentially saying, look, the president is not being reasonable here, and then you have the white house saying this is magic beans and fairy dust. is this a lot of posturing here? are we really at an impasse? >> yes to both of those questions. there is a lot of post urg, but we do seem to be at an impasse. i want to show our viewers some video that will illustrate just what we're talking about. that is pictures of members of the house of representatives leaving for the week, and now, i don't want tower viewers to get concerned. the calendars on the desk tops are not wrong. it is still wednesday. this did happen at noon on wednesday. it would be nice if all of us could do that, but -- >> yeah, really. >> this is not an accident. republican leaders say that they just simply have nothing to vote on right now on the floor of the house, and, you know, it helps them illustrate the whole message that they're sending out, which is that the ball is in the president
dana bash on the hill. a standoff here, republicans essentially saying, look, the president is not being reasonable here, and then you have the white house saying this is magic beans and fairy dust. is this a lot of posturing here? are we really at an impasse? >> yes to both of those questions. there is a lot of post urg, but we do seem to be at an impasse. i want to show our viewers some video that will illustrate just what we're talking about. that is pictures of members of the house of...
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and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> dana? >> newt gingrich's crystal ball has had some difficulties before because he predicted that this year we would have president newt gingrich, which didn'texac pated. he makes a valid point about hillary. it's not that surprising. but also, and i think we've discussed this before, it seemed very likely that the party that won in 2012 would be in a formidable position in 2016 because of where the economy is likely to be because of where it was in 2012. so the incumbent party, the democrats in this case, are going to be in a very strong position. and if hillary is the nominee, obviously, she's going to be the beneficiary of that. >> i just love a world where after being bill clinton's presidency, now gingrich is one of the great clinton champions, along with much of the republican party. it has been fast nating to see the republicans embrace hillary clinton, in particular. >> he also doesn't know how popular president obama is. but i'm going to have to leave it there. i was going to talk a
and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> dana? >> newt gingrich's crystal ball has had some difficulties before because he predicted that this year we would have president newt gingrich, which didn'texac pated. he makes a valid point about hillary. it's not that surprising. but also, and i think we've discussed this before, it seemed very likely that the party that won in 2012 would be in a formidable position in 2016 because of where the economy is...
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thank you, dana and ron. i think we caught the spirit of this nonsense. >>> up next, one of the most popular guests we've ever had on "hardball," barney frank joins us as he prepares to leave the congress after more than -- boy, barney's been around a long time. i thought he was the new guy. this is "hardball," the place for politics. ur rate cd. ur rate cd. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise your rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. military families face, we understand. at usaa, we know military life is different. we've been there. that's why every bit of financial advice we offer is geared specifically to current and former military members and their families. [ laughs ] dad! dad! [ applause ] ♪ [ male announcer ] life brings obstacles. usaa brings advice. call or visit us online. we're read
thank you, dana and ron. i think we caught the spirit of this nonsense. >>> up next, one of the most popular guests we've ever had on "hardball," barney frank joins us as he prepares to leave the congress after more than -- boy, barney's been around a long time. i thought he was the new guy. this is "hardball," the place for politics. ur rate cd. ur rate cd. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the...
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what's your reaction to what i was just putting to dana? there has been this critique of susan rice as having been overly aggressive in some way, but that often strikes me as a typically sexist reaction by men who don't like women who are successful, frankly. >> remember before hillary clinton was the most beloved woman on the planet, she was an ogre for saying things that didn't sound lady like to people about cookies and such. there is a different standard for women and how they are to behave. i think for her there is that but there is a list of people she's given sharp elbows to. it's a list of one. it's john mccain. during the campaign she criticized his irresponsible statements about iran, the singing about bomb bomb iran. she characterized him a reckless individual who shouldn't be president. that was during the campaign. and a lot of the anger i would guess of john mccain towards susan rice has to do not so much with her being a woman, but with her being not deferential to john mccain. >> now, we've had a statement from senator linds
what's your reaction to what i was just putting to dana? there has been this critique of susan rice as having been overly aggressive in some way, but that often strikes me as a typically sexist reaction by men who don't like women who are successful, frankly. >> remember before hillary clinton was the most beloved woman on the planet, she was an ogre for saying things that didn't sound lady like to people about cookies and such. there is a different standard for women and how they are to...
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thank you for watching. >> dana: adios! >> bret: the elephant in the room, as we stand on the essential of the fiscal cliff. what the president does not want to talk about. plus senator jim demint is here to tell you why he is leighing the senate. this is "special report." this is "special report." ♪ ♪ good evening >> good evening. i'm bret baier. much of the public debate focuses on taxes. democrat want to raise them on high earners. republicans don't. but there is another part of the equation that gets less attention. that is spending cuts. chief white house correspondent ed henry looks in to that tonight. >> reporter: pulling on the heart strings as if he were back on the campaign trail, president obama visited middle class family in virginia. >> a couple of thousand dollars means a couple months' rent for this family. >> once again, he was trying to frame the battle oaf the fiscal cliff as being all about taxes. with no mention of spending cuts. >> i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate
thank you for watching. >> dana: adios! >> bret: the elephant in the room, as we stand on the essential of the fiscal cliff. what the president does not want to talk about. plus senator jim demint is here to tell you why he is leighing the senate. this is "special report." this is "special report." ♪ ♪ good evening >> good evening. i'm bret baier. much of the public debate focuses on taxes. democrat want to raise them on high earners. republicans don't....
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you know, i take dana's reference to "lord of the flies." it's really more like a monkey's wedding or something out there, the disarray in the republican party. >> i have never been to one of those actually. >> well, you can imagine the confusion. yeah. but it's the ideologues versus the pragmatists. the pragmatists simply want to serve their donor base. that's why they don't want to raise taxes on the rich, but the ideologues have a different game altogether. they want to bring down government basically. >> well, you can't watch the game without a scorecard. here is some more of the people on the pragma side, and it's an unusual shaping up. bill kristol is leading the criticism, that the republicans need a come to jesus moment. he writes, it may be major parts of american conservatism have become such a racket that a kind of refounding of the movement as a cause is necessary. joe scarborough, our colleague, amplified his opinion on "morning joe" yesterday. let's listen to joe. >> conservatism is a racket for a lot of people to get very, ver
you know, i take dana's reference to "lord of the flies." it's really more like a monkey's wedding or something out there, the disarray in the republican party. >> i have never been to one of those actually. >> well, you can imagine the confusion. yeah. but it's the ideologues versus the pragmatists. the pragmatists simply want to serve their donor base. that's why they don't want to raise taxes on the rich, but the ideologues have a different game altogether. they want to...
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with a photograph of dana clair saying happy new year. you did that? >> yes, i did that. >> was it hard to keep your composure, though? >> i have praise for grace when i pray for justice. >> would debra edwards finally get justice for dana? i'm richard schlesinger. "48 hours." >> we'll find out. you can see the full report "everything to lose" tomorrow at 10:00, 9:00 central. >> catherine bigelow's new movie is winning awards and raising controversy. we'll talk about "zero dark 30." your local news is next. ,, well, well, well. growing up, we didn't have u-verse. we couldn't record four shows at the same time. in my day, you were lucky if you could record two shows. and if mom was recording her dumb show and dad was recording his dumb show then, by george, that's all we watched. and we liked it! today's kids got it so good. [ male announcer ] get u-verse tv with a total home dvr included free for life. only $29 a month for six months. >>> this is a cbs 5 eyewitness news morning update. >>> good morning it's 8:25. time for news headlines. a man is in se
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nothing happens with moody's chief economist mark zandy, jackie comes of the "new york times" and cnn's dana bash. i'm candy crowley and this is "state of the union." >>> politically the speaker is playing with a weaker hand that the president, the pressure is higher on him and his critics are harder too. >> the republican party's finished. >> he is selling out our children right now with these massive tax increases and that's a starting bid. he's saying here $800 billion now will you sit down with us, obama? >> twistill with the votes get counted in his caucus of republicans, boehner seems to have more room to maneuver than he did in preelection face-offs over political matters. even if the republican speaker gets a deal, can he get it passed? joining me now, republican congressman tom cole of oklahoma and marsha blackburn of tennessee, thank you both so much for joining us, that's really the key question, we keep saying they'll get a deal, they'll get something. it doesn't matter whether the two of them get a deal, it matter also the speaker haas the house votes to vote for it. how free a
nothing happens with moody's chief economist mark zandy, jackie comes of the "new york times" and cnn's dana bash. i'm candy crowley and this is "state of the union." >>> politically the speaker is playing with a weaker hand that the president, the pressure is higher on him and his critics are harder too. >> the republican party's finished. >> he is selling out our children right now with these massive tax increases and that's a starting bid. he's saying...
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dana bash, i have to jump. thanks. if you could continue working that for us because i know there will be further developments hope reply today. one thing that's critical with what the speaker just said, whether that will have a bearing on the stock market, certainly what happened this morning with the jobs numbers, that's got a bearing on the market. 146,000 new jobs for november. it is good news for investors, believe it or not. 25 days away from the fiscal cliff, those new jobs number could also be good for president obama and might end up giving him some of the leverage dana was talking about. listen to this. >> president obama's argument has been that the economy is doing well enough it could handle a tax hike. if the economy were in recession as we saw last time, then he would be reluctant to lift that top rate. if the economy is growing sharply, then if -- the -- some damage from lifting the top rate then maybe the economy can afford it. now the gdp growth number is not as strong as the jobs report. but if we a
dana bash, i have to jump. thanks. if you could continue working that for us because i know there will be further developments hope reply today. one thing that's critical with what the speaker just said, whether that will have a bearing on the stock market, certainly what happened this morning with the jobs numbers, that's got a bearing on the market. 146,000 new jobs for november. it is good news for investors, believe it or not. 25 days away from the fiscal cliff, those new jobs number could...
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>> dana: i was on a horse. they drugged the horse so they wouldn't move and they were stuffed. rodeo clown, i love them. they wear suspender, too. >> eric: like "the five." >> you're our rodeo clown. >> eric:'ll do it. can i say it? we are probably on "entertainment tonight" and check the local listings. "the insider." before "entertainment tonight." you're 100% right. check it out. i made a prediction. see if they air that. that is it for "the five." thank you for watching, everyone. see you tomorrow. ♪ ♪ >> bret: this is a fox news alert. i'm bret baier in washington. the person thought to be at the top of president obama's short list, to replace hillary clinton as secretary of state, has taken herself out of the running. united nations ambassador susan rice has been under withering assault from the republicans over her response to september terror attack in benghazi, libya. get the latest from the chief white house correspondent ed henry. good evening. >> good evening. this is a dramatic shift. the president caving on someone who he really wanted to install as the next s
>> dana: i was on a horse. they drugged the horse so they wouldn't move and they were stuffed. rodeo clown, i love them. they wear suspender, too. >> eric: like "the five." >> you're our rodeo clown. >> eric:'ll do it. can i say it? we are probably on "entertainment tonight" and check the local listings. "the insider." before "entertainment tonight." you're 100% right. check it out. i made a prediction. see if they air that. that...